[FSFLA] my proposal to Mozille: InterNet, the Inter-connection of local Net-works

willi uebelherr willi.uebelherr en riseup.net
Lun Ene 9 02:36:15 UTC 2017


(please delete the last verion. so many errors)

Dear Quiliro,

my first question is, why we should use the planetary reference, if we 
act only on the earth ball.

And based on this lack of understanding i have big problems to follow 
your proposal.

To the facts. We have a ball, this ball have a center and a radius. All 
are average values.

The radius is ca 6370 km, the circumference ca 40.000km, the surface is 
ca 500*10^6 km^2 = 500*10^12 m^2 = 500*10^18mm^2
If we devide the surface with 2^64 = 27mm^2

We are both clear, that the WCS-84 is not a good model, because it is 
based on triangles with the basic lines on the equator and the top on 
the pol.

To have a continuous resolution, we can use a 2-dimensional or a 
3-dimensional system. I prefer the 2-dim system, because it is easier.

We can use the equator as our horizontal circle. The zero/360 point can 
be every where. On the crosspoint with our angel we create our vertical 
circle with his center in the earth center and her turning points in the 
pols. On this circle we use our vertical angle. The zero/360 point is 
the crosspoint with the equator.

With 32bit for every circle, h and v, we have 40.000km / 2^32 = 9mm. The 
differenzes to our surface value comes from the inaccuracy of my used 
numbers.

The two point connection way is a segment of the circle with the center 
in the earth center and his connection with the two points. On the way, 
the router define the source-position with his own position. The 
destination-position is always the destination of the paket.

In a ball space this 2-dim angel coordination is always the easiest way. 
We can use it also for our transmitter antennas for automatic 
geografical calibration.

This is the background for my short explanation in the text.

And now, please explain in steps your proposal with a planetary view.

Community Server Space

I will use our communication on this list for another question. I start 
to check the possibilities to create this open community server spaces 
in Latin America, Europe and Asia. This server spaces is oriented to 
support the people in the different community activities to can use 
free(libre) this server functionalities.

The different people in the different instances or themes organise the 
technical system together. Her own part and the common part. The 
financial base, strong seperated from the using space, until we can 
create our own server spaces in all communities, is based on free 
donations around.

The core function are the different server modules, what the people need 
to run her application. For all types of applications. The 
administration and service working is free, based on voluntary.

The second part now, based on our discussion of our InterNet 
architecture and design, are the more technical questions to our 
components. For that we need our global network for free technology. And 
with our Open Community Server Spaces we can it organise easier. And, 
based on an Open Source Audi/Video Streaming like Tox with an interface 
to other protocols we can create our global conferences from our living 
places. Of course, this is more easier with more regional Community 
Server Spaces. And this we need also for our World Social Forums and the 
themes forums like World Internet Forum.

What you think about and what ideas you and others have?

many greetings, willi


On 08/01/2017 05:15, Quiliro wrote:
> On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 21:25:51 -0300
> ...
> What do you think of defining coordinates from certain fixed point in
> the Earth (planetary reference)? Coordinates could be devised by
> calculating the angle composed of the planetary reference to the center
> of the Earth and the center of the Earth with the objective site for the
> first parameter of the matrix. The angular direction over the surface of
> the Earth could be the other parameter based on the angle of the Equator
> or the axis of rotation of the Earth as one side and the line from the
> planetary reference to the objective site as the other line for the
> second dimension. Then we would have a two dimensional system of
> coordinates which would be more precise in distance than the currently
> used GPS system (WCS-84) which has a precision of 2 m. In order to make
> it easy to calculate, we could use the decimal 1 as the oposite point in
> the globe (180 degrees).
>
> The 2 dimensions could be negative angles if going counterclockwise and
> positive when going clockwise. They could reach a maximum of 1 in
> either direction. So we could have [1,1] for a place on the other side
> of the planet regarding the planetary reference. The same place could
> be reached by [+-1, any number from -1 to +1] because the destination
> would be the same but it would be reached by taking diferent routes.
> This would be the only place to have this condition.
>
> We could specify any distance with any precision (based on the number of
> digits). We could even define positions of particles. So with 64 bits
> we could have 2^64 (18x10^18) one-dimensional possibilities or 2^32
> (4x10^9) two-dimensional possibilities. So we could approximate to 0.01
> m, which is 200 times more precise than 2 m and with the same precision
> on every part of the planet! If we use two 64 bit addresses (as you
> suggest) we could even reach pico (10^-12) precision.
>
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