Linux-Libre and Trechearous Computing

Alexandre Oliva lxoliva at
Tue Feb 16 07:24:22 UTC 2010

On Feb 15, 2010, Ted Smith <teddks at> wrote:

> On Mon, 2010-02-15 at 13:58 +0100, davide89v wrote:
>> Hi i'm a new user in this list, i want do a question on this free
>> version of linux.
>> I think that libre linux should not only remove the blob but also the
>> support for the trecherous computing.
>> What do you think?

> I don't think that would be a good idea in the least, because as long as
> all your software is free, you have nothing to fear from a TPM in your
> system, and you can put it to good use.

> It's probably a good thing to oppose treacherous computing in the
> general case, because practically nobody uses only free software, and as
> such TC is in a position to wreak utter havoc. But we don't gain
> anything by denying ourselves TPMs that we know we control.

This is my understanding as well, save for a caveat.

TPM could *prevent* you from installing any Free Software whatsoever on
a given system.

That said, I don't see how having support for TPM in Linux-libre would
aid in reducing this risk, or add any other risks of abuse of Free
Software-only users.

So, from what I know about this topic, I'm inclined to leave it alone,
but I could be convinced otherwise if shown a scenario in which support
(whatever that means) for TPM in a Free kernel makes Free Software users
more prone to abuse from hardware or Free Software suppliers.

Alexandre Oliva, freedom fighter
You must be the change you wish to see in the world. -- Gandhi
Be Free! --   FSF Latin America board member
Free Software Evangelist      Red Hat Brazil Compiler Engineer

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