[FSFLA] Berlin 2018, Workshop for a Next Generation Internet

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Mar Nov 14 19:31:59 UTC 2017


Mi respuesta al pie del texto para tener un mejor orden
cronologico.

willi uebelherr <willi.uebelherr at riseup.net> writes:

> Dear friends,
>
> this is my translated answer in the FSFde and FreiFunk-talk list in german.
>
> My proposal for the InterNet, "the Inter-connection of local
> net-works", I also gave the people of the EU Surfey program "The Next
> Generation Internet". Clearly, with such a proposal are these people,
> who are only oriented in private/state structures and to hanle the
> telecommunication as a capitalizable object, completely overstrained.
>
> We should always go back to the starting point. The Internet is only a
> transport system for digital data in packat form. Everything else is
> based on the application level. And to the transport system belongs
> the routing, the navigation, and the error check. We want, that the
> packats arrive the destination as we sent them.
>
> I can gladly give you my proposal, which is well-known in the FreiFunk
> environment and in some FSF lists. Whether I can be in Berlin is still
> open.
>
> My basic approach is that people organize the telecommunication
> themselves in their local communities, from small to large. Private
> and governmental instances emerge from the outset. And only in this
> way is the telecommunication from the monetary system, but this is
> imperative.
>
> My basic approach is that the people organize the telecommunication
> themselves from their local communities, from small to large. Private
> and governmental instances are not needed and are superfluous. And
> only on this way is the telecommunication removable from the money
> system, a basic necessity.
>
> with many greetings, willi
> Asuncion, Paraguay
>
>
> -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------
> Betreff: Berlin 2018, Workshop for a Next Generation Internet
> Datum: Sun, 22 Oct 2017 09:35:08 +0000
> Von: ng0 <ng0 at infotropique.org>
> An: discussion at lists.fsfe.org
>
> To whom it may concern beyond just being affected...
>
> the Internet is so broken, even the European Parliament passes
> resolutions against it[0] while the European Commission fosters
> the exploration of better solutions[1]. Some of us have been
> working on a new Internet all along and continue to do so.
>
> We would like to invite you after 34C3, to Berlin, to discuss
> and hack Next Generation Internet technologies. The kind that
> actually replace parts of the existing Internet, not just adds
> complexity to it.
>
>     Start: Friday, 5th of January, 2018
>       End: Sunday, 7th of January, 2018
>  Location: Onionspace, Gottschedstraße 4, Aufgang 4, 13347 Berlin
>
> We're roughly a dozen coders, working on one such solution.
> With a social interaction layer on top of GNUnet[2] -
> called secushare[3] - we want to continue our efforts on
> developing a basic communication technology for a better
> democratic society in which people be free to communicate,
> share information, participate in social discourse, and be
> empowered to establish structures through digital means
> to organize themselves and renew the idea of democracy.
> A truly social network, resistant against manipulation
> by DarkAds[4] and political dashboard optimization (see
> Facebook's Malvinas affair[5]) is becoming a precondition
> for reasonable election results.
>
> Some updates on what we have been doing lately:
>
>   * Debugging of GNUnet sevices, e.g. multicast, psyc, social (all)
>   * UI design for secushare (all)
>   * Improved documentation (Drupal to Tex to Texinfo conversion and
> cleanup, etc) (WIP by ng0)
>   * Improving the documentation (this involved Drupal to Tex to
> Texinfo conversion and applying fixes and changes to it) (by ng0)
>   * Rust bindings for GNUnet (WIP by lurchi, t3sserakt)   *
> Refactoring the GNUnet scheduler for use with epoll / foreign language
> bindings (WIP by lurchi, t3sserakt)
>   * Continuous integration and deployment infrastructure, with E2E
> tests (WIP by dvn)
>   * Guix packaging (WIP by ng0)
>   * GNUnet integration into GuixSD (WIP by ng0)
>   * A new GNUnet website (coming up, moving away from Drupal)
>  At our New Year meeting, we'd like to talk about some
> social, technical and infrastructural topics:     * Where we are with
> secushare, and what's next
>   * Our role in the European Commission's Next Generation Internet
>   * The use of a deteministic debugger to get the annoying bugs removed.[7]
>   * Better guidance for interested people to join the GNUnet community.
>   * AGPL Licensing - Will it save us?
>   * CI/CD for GNUnet, and adjacent projects
>   * Fixing gnunet-fs
>   * infotropique[8] OS - a GuixSD based OS interwoven[9] with GNUnet
>
> Again, we welcome you to Berlin. If you need a place to stay
> just get in touch, we will find something cheap and hospitable.
> For those already around on New Year's Eve, we want to party away the
> bad vibes of 2017, embrace the shapes of things to come with good
> music, drinks, food, and nice people. So if you are interested, you
> can already join us earlier, or meet us in smaller groups during the
> whole week.
>
> 'Til then, Happy hacking!
>
> los secushare peoples.
>   xrs, dvn, lurchi, lynX, t3sserakt, ng0...
>
>
> [0]
> http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-//EP//TEXT+TA+P8-TA-2017-0366+0+DOC+XML+V0//EN&language=EN
> [1] https://nlnet.net/NGI/
> [2] https://gnunet.org
> [3] http://secushare.cheettyiapsyciew.onion or just http://secushare.org
> [4]
> https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/jul/31/facebook-dark-ads-can-swing-opinions-politics-research-shows
> [5] https://theintercept.com/2015/04/02/gchq-argentina-falklands/
> [7] http://rr-project.org/ [8] https://www.infotropique.org
> [9] https://gnunet.org/git/infotropique.git/tree/ROADMAP

(Disculpen la falta de tildes.)
Me parece muy importante la iniciativa de Secushare que mencionan que
esta montada sobre GNUNet. Esa iniciativa trabaja en la libertad en la
capa de la aplicacion. Creo que esa es importante. Creo que es igual de
importante el transporte de datos en la capa fisica como menciona
Willi. Por otro lado, conoci a un investigador que estaba trabajando
sobre un protocolo que reemplaza TCP/IP y que tiene encriptacion
embebida. Una combinacion de estas tres estrategias puede ser importante
para lograr la apropiacion comunal de las telecomunicaciones para evitar
su cooptacion por las megacorporaciones.


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